Can the Lady affect things OUTSIDE Sigil...?

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elderbrain
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Can the Lady affect things OUTSIDE Sigil...?

I ask because the Lady is known to have slain the deity Aoskar, which raises the question of just where Aoskar was when he met his end. If he was outside the city, then the Lady's powers must extend beyond it. The other alternative - that he was actually inside Sigil at the time - suggests that, like Vecna, he found a way around her defenses (perhaps because of his status as a god of doors). Any ideas?

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The Lady is, to my knowledge,

The Lady is, to my knowledge, never known to have affected anything outside of Sigil other than the creation (and any maintenance) of Her Mazes. Aoskar may have been accessible to her because his power touched Her Serenity's portals, or because of the dabus that became his priest.

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How did it start?

I don't think this is backed up by any cannon; but I always pictured the Lady as having once been, in the ancient past, outside/unconnected to Sigil and only became tied/ruled Sigil because of a power play that also involved the death of Aoska.
I have my self-manufactured backstory to explain what happened; but it was so long ago, it doesn't really affect the current game. But again, I don't think there is any "official" history to explain these kind of details about the Lady

But now that she IS inside the city, I feel that she should be limited in what she can affect outside of Sigil

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Quote:The Lady is, to my

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The Lady is, to my knowledge, never known to have affected anything outside of Sigil other than the creation (and any maintenance) of Her Mazes. Aoskar may have been accessible to her because his power touched Her Serenity's portals, or because of the dabus that became his priest.

Yeah, I always supposed he actually tried to enter Sigil via the portals and was slain at this instant. It's even possible that the whole Fell-scandal was orchestrated by the Lady herself to lure Aoskar into Sigil or to enable her to destroy him.
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I've always imagined that

I've always imagined that Aoskar entered Sigil like Vecna, or Sougad, and tried to take Sigil as his divine domain. There's other possibilities, I like the Imaskari theory by Rip. Also I think he was weakened by Phoenix, another, now dead power of planewalkers.

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My interpretation of the

My interpretation of the Aoskar event is that he was the reason for the Lady's ban on deities in Sigil. Before that, they were allowed in as long as they behaved, just like everyone else. As to the extent of Her power, I maintain the rumour that when She killed Aoskar, it also killed every priest of his except Fell, all across the multiverse.

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I'd leave it ambiguous,

I'd leave it ambiguous, unless you have a specific plot in mind involving the Lady working her will outside of Sigil. I've hinted that she might have created the plague that decimated the Imaskari, as well as the plague that decimated Carrigmoor (a portal city from Beyond Countless Doorways).

I'd be careful about using the Lady of Pain as an antagonist, though, since her statless, nigh-omnipotent nature could make that frustrating for the PCs. Better to make her the subject of rumors and speculation and rarely, if ever, have her manifest in front of the PCs. They might never see any proof that she actually exists, and there might be competing theories that explain her alleged deeds.

Some people have presented Aoskar as the former ruler of Sigil that the Lady of Pain overthrew to take her current authority over the city, but my inclination is to say that Aoskar wasn't that big of a deal, no more powerful than any other greater god. Or, alternately, he was an aspect of Yog-Sothoth.